tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post8163391440515811446..comments2024-01-23T05:18:56.246+00:00Comments on Witterings From Witney: There Can Still Be 'Surprises'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post-46569813202088801782010-08-24T22:34:18.017+01:002010-08-24T22:34:18.017+01:00pop, woodsy42, sorry tend not to agree. More incli...pop, woodsy42, sorry tend not to agree. More inclined to agree with cm.<br /><br />Anyway, my prime complaint is who are the politicos to dictate to us a choice of two? We elect the bastards and we shud choose the method, consequently we should be allowed a choice from all systems available!Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post-38240288452991929202010-08-23T16:38:32.830+01:002010-08-23T16:38:32.830+01:00AV is a recipe for sclerotic government.AV is a recipe for sclerotic government.circus monkeyhttp://circusmonkeysmirror.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post-61047527705763196582010-08-23T16:16:02.887+01:002010-08-23T16:16:02.887+01:00I think AV could change voting patterns a lot, and...I think AV could change voting patterns a lot, and for the better.<br />My suspicion is that much current voting is 'negative' -i.e. people don't vote for who they want but vote for the party that is most likely to beat the ones they hate most. <br />Being honest I think I have always done this, even without always consciously doing so.<br />AV will free people to vote for who they really want, and I hope and belive that if we get AV the established parties will get one hell of a shock. The local independents, small parties and outsiders will get a chance.Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post-47349993426916824662010-08-23T14:29:09.344+01:002010-08-23T14:29:09.344+01:001. Under FPTP, if there is an independent candidat...1. Under FPTP, if there is an independent candidate, who is virtually certain to not win, then however much you agree with them, voting for them is a wasted vote as far as your representation in parliament goes.<br /><br />However AV means you can say they are your favoured candidate, but using later options say 'but if they are knocked out, then I would prefer X, then Y then Z'<br /><br />2. FPTP means people worry about 'wasting' their vote so may not vote for the candidate they most support, but for the candidate they guess is most likely to be elected, who they disagree with least.<br /><br />3. If you do that you have FPTP for your vote and I can have AV for mine - both happy :-)<br /><br />4. That isn't whats on offer...Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10605617930455114746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post-38816417309011851872010-08-23T14:10:41.044+01:002010-08-23T14:10:41.044+01:00pop,
1. No more than any other system
2. Nothing ...pop,<br /><br />1. No more than any other system<br />2. Nothing stopping them voting with their hearts under FPTP, surely?<br />3. If just putting 1 then what is the difference to FPTP?<br />4. Now if every party adopted truly open primaries including selection of a candidate, then candidates personality would not enter into equation - just their political beliefs.Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6509959543151548263.post-65898932518153012502010-08-23T14:03:17.119+01:002010-08-23T14:03:17.119+01:00AV allows voters to honestly and clearly express t...AV allows voters to honestly and clearly express their preference regarding their representation in parliament.<br /><br />AV eliminates the risk of a 'wasted vote' which causes many people to vote with their 'head' for tactical reason rather than with their 'hearts' for what they really want.<br /><br />You don't have to put 2nd or later preferences if you don't want to - you can just put a 1 by your favourite party.<br /><br />However why deny people (like me) any say in who my MP is just because my first choice doesn't get in?Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10605617930455114746noreply@blogger.com