Friday, 24 September 2010

UKIP Go To War?

The Talking Clock posts that Gerard Batten has formed an electoral pact with Tim Congdon, the latter who is standing for Leader - and that as part of this 'pact' Gerard Batten has withdrawn his candidacy for that position.
"In a brief form of the statement, Tim Congdon tells potential supporters: "Tim Congdon and Gerard Batten have announced that they will be working together in a joint bid for the leadership of the UK Independence Party. Gerard Batten has decided to stand down and to support the candidature of Tim Congdon. If Tim Congdon is elected Leader of the UK Independence Party, he will appoint Gerard Batten as Deputy Leader and Head of Policy Development."
Follow the links in TTC's post to read the statements by Batten and Congdon.

So now we will have the Farage/Nuttall camps in open warfare with the Batten/Congdon camps.

TTC ends his post:
"This is a race that just got a darn sight more interesting..."
And, I would venture, 'bloody'.............. FFS UKIP!

11 comments:

James Higham said...

That sort of thing is hardly helpful.

The Talking Clock said...

Thank you for the generous hat-tip.

I'm hoping that the characters do not resort to internal warfare and hope that any - cough - 'positioning' of individual characters stays in the realm of private debate rather than bursting into the public domain.

I have met all three of the declared and known candidates for my interview series and, while all three are very different in terms of personality, they were all incredibly warm and kind people.

It's for that latter reason that I *hope* that the gentlemen in the race can maintain a generous, fair and healthy contest. I'm optimistic that they will...

Witterings From Witney said...

JH - As they say, I do know that (only too well).

TTC - my pleasure. Unfortunately I believe your wishes are misplaced - seen it all before. Yes all three are reasonable men but.........there will be blood!

Autonomous Mind said...

A new cenre-right party without the 'single issue' baggage is required now.

Witterings From Witney said...

AM, agreed. However UKIP do possess those policies but it seems that rather than promote them they would rather have a bloodbath. I say that with heavy heart in the I support their policies entirely - they most definitely are centre right.

As to your suggestion/conclusion - fine, how do we start one and who heads it? You can forget Hannan and Carswell - they are too wedded to their careers and I have virtually given up on them.

Greg_L-W. said...

Hi,

I incline to agree with TTC and commend his comment:
I *hope* that the gentlemen in the race can maintain a generous, fair and healthy contest.

I'm not optimistic that they will be able to and thus in the face of the usual barage of smearing and deception - already started with abuse of staff and phone calls and the positioning of campaign managers and a toady as opposition to split the vote and prevent a fair fight I would hazard a prediction that it is all over bar the sneering

& that was UKIP!

There is absolutely no value in ANY Party from now on as our laws are made by our enemies at worst rivals at best.

There is no value in discussion of policies that can NEVER be implemented whilst in The EU - and be minded NO PARTY has ever put forward an Exit & Survival Strategy.

It will take 10 years from when we leave to be in a position to consider our own policies so play all you like at being political but without Leave-the-EU as a basis you are wasting yours and everyone elses time and working for the enemy.

Have a look at Leave-the-eu.org on google and TheMidnightGroup.blogspot likewise.

There are no answers but there is a step forward YOU can help build.

When THE Gentleman in the UKIP blood bath wakes up perhaps he would care to come and help us do something constructive - UKIP is a part of the problem and offers no part of the solution.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Witterings From Witney said...

Greg, I do not stop any criticism or comment on this blog and you know full well that yours and my views on Ukip and the people in it are at total variance.

It is a great pity that you force your views on those that don't want them - witness you have been asked more than once to desist sending your email rants to me, yet continue to do so.

For one who writes about "the usual barage of smearing and deception" I can only say to you that the words pot, black and kettle spring to my mind.

The fact that you have a personal vendetta against certain members of Ukip is obvious and does your argument no good whatsoever.

By all means argue and debate, but if you wish to do so on this blog then at least have the courtesy to provide provenance to your accusations.

Greg_L-W. said...

Hi,

happy to - which bit did you not understand?

It is a great pity that you force your views on those that don't want them - witness you have been asked more than once to desist sending your email rants to me, yet continue to do so.

Don't read them - in the second row of keys down on the right you'll find one marked delete.

YOU are master of YOUR computer.

For one who writes about "the usual barage of smearing and deception" I can only say to you that the words pot, black and kettle spring to my mind.

Please be so good as to identify a lie, distortion, smear, untruth or deliberate inaccuracy I have EVER published - if you are unable an apology would be apposite when seeking to liken me to Croucher, Farage, Bloom, Bannerman, Clark, Andreasen, Agnew, Denny, McTrough and the rest of the pond life in UKIP leadership.

The fact that you have a personal vendetta against certain members of Ukip is obvious and does your argument no good whatsoever.

I have no vendetta with any member of UKIP merely utter contempt for corruption, dishonesty and bullying by public servants using tax payers' money.

By all means argue and debate, but if you wish to do so on this blog then at least have the courtesy to provide provenance to your accusations.

Any time, Any place, with Anyone, withing 50 miles (health constraints - sorry).

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Witterings From Witney said...

Greg,

Re the delete button: what is it you do not understand, encapsulated in the words please do not send me your emails/please take me off your mailing list? I am fully aware where the delete button is located on my keyboard - unfortunately it does not work with people!

Your comment about 'pond life' demonstrates you lack of courtesy and any ability to debate.

Sorry to hear about your health being a tad problematical and trust it improves soon however not too sure what the waiting list is for the brain implant you so obviously require.

Witterings From Witney said...

Greg L-W,

Your last post I have deleted as I believe it to be out of order and on the basis that this is my blog. This is the first time I have had to take this decision and as a result I would request that if you wish to write content, such as you did in those I have deleted, that you do it elsewhere.

Greg_L-W. said...

Hi,

as you were unable to act ethically and merely presented my post as not being fact when I showed clearly that it was your dishonesty was noted - what was it in that dishonesty did you wish to have highlighted as I have left out no part deliberately as I saw your abuse as immensly damaging to you but made by choice on your part as with your gratuitous childishness and proven inability to debate as an adult the facts which I presented - none of which was refutable.

regards,
Greg_L-W.